Newsgroups: comp.parallel,comp.software-eng,comp.lang.visual From: zhou@ifi.unizh.ch (Hongbo Zhou) Subject: RE: Soft. Eng. for Parallel Comput., Visual Programming Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science Date: Sun, 8 Aug 93 18:29:49 GMT Hi, this is all I get from my last inquiry post. Thanks a lot for those who have kindly responsed. ------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 15:13:16 EDT From: tarnoff@cme.nist.gov (Nicholas Tarnoff) There is a paper on Janus in the 1990 IEEE Workshop on Visual Languages, October 4-6, Skokie, Illinois, USA titled: "Complete Visualizations of Concurrent Programs and their Executions" The email address for the author is kahn@parc.xerox.xom Good luck -Nicholas Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 10:41:47 +0200 From: Akram Benalia Subject: RE: Soft. Eng. for Parallel Comput., Visual Programming Hi, I have a paper (will be published on Aug 93) in International HCI'93 (Orlando,fl,USA). It is about "HelpDraw" a visual data parallel programming language. If you are intersted in let me know and e-mail me your physical adress. -- Akram Benalia Date: Mon, 19 Jul 93 13:21:17 -0400 From: purtilo@cs.UMD.EDU (Jim Purtilo) Subject: Re: CONFIGURABLE DISTRIBUTED SYSTEMS Hi, Your phrase "software engineering for distributing computing" certainly connotates topics which are important to our mission in the configurable distributed systems workshop, so I would say that at the least there is some substantial overlap. Perhaps you could examine the last meetings' information and themes, and then let me know what conclusion you reach? I have placed materials out for access by anonymous ftp from flubber.cs.umd.edu, in the CDS subdirectory. You can find the table of contents for last year's meeting, plus some summary text as well. We need all the high quality submissions we can get for the coming meeting, and so I look forward to receiving something from you! Regards, Jim Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 16:47:31 +0200 From: " (Niandong Fang)" Subject: Re: Parallel Software Engineering Hallo, I got your email. But unfortunately that till now I got only one reply. So I did not post it in News. Following is the reply I got: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- >From dinucci@nas.nasa.gov Wed Jun 9 19:37:45 1993 Date: Wed, 9 Jun 93 10:37:34 -0700 From: dinucci@nas.nasa.gov (David C. DiNucci) To: fang@ifi.unibas.ch Subject: Re: Paralell Software Engineering Literature needed Newsgroups: comp.parallel Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, California Cc: My dissertation was on that topic: D. DiNucci, A Formal Model for Architecture-Independent Parallel Software Engineering, Oregon Graduate Institute, 1991 Perhaps the best published papers are: D. DiNucci, R. Babb, Design and Implementation of Parallel Programs with LGDF2, Proceedings of CompCon 89 (San Francisco), IEEE 1989 D. DiNucci, R. Babb, Practical Support for Parallel Programming, Proceedings 21st HICSS (Hawaii), 1988, vol II, pages Robert G. Babb II (my advisor) may have other related papers. >From dinucci@nas.nasa.gov Sat Jun 12 00:08:13 1993 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 93 15:08:02 -0700 From: dinucci@nas.nasa.gov (David C. DiNucci) To: (Niandong Fang) fang@ifi.unibas.ch Subject: Re: Thanks for your reply Hello, It seems that most people believe that parallel processing is too hard, all by itself, to be considering software engineering issues at the same time, but the more I look at the problems involved they seem very similar in both fields. The book that you mention contains just a little software engineering work. It's primary focus is on the different problems and approaches when programming different machines with different models. I believe that Babb has a paper in the 1992 VAPP/CONPAR proceedings which deals with some of the ideas from the dissertation. As for my dissertation, it was the last non-postscript dissertation from the CS department. It is in nroff, and the diagrams are written with a special graphical editor called gremlin, which nobody seems to have and which does not translate well to postscript. I would recommend that you contact either Oregon Graduate Institute (i.e. try secretary@cse.ogi.edu or my advisor, babb@cse.ogi.edu) or that you try University Microfilms if you would like a hardcopy. If that fails, ask me again and I'll see what I can do. Good luck, Dave ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Later I contacted the Oregon Graduate Institute, I got a copy of his dissertation. After a dip in his diss, I got a impression that his diss is not quite relevent to the Parallel Software Engineering but more or less to developing a machine-independend parallel program. Later I posted it in NewsGroup "comp.software.engineering", but unfortunately I got NO response till now. So far is the information I got, hope it is useful for you. As I see, Parallel Software Engineering is a relative new research field. Maybe there are more valuable information in the literature he mention above. (I didn't find them here, maybe you can try in Zuerich. If you find them. please let me know. thanks ) Good luck for your Ph. D examination. Regards, Niandong Fang Date: Thu, 15 Jul 93 09:17:36 EDT From: tarnoff@cme.nist.gov (Nicholas Tarnoff) Subject: Re: Soft. Eng. for Parallel Comput., Visual Programming Janus from Xerox Parc in california is a visual programming language with emphasis on parallel computing. I lent my literature to someone so I don't have contact info. right now. I should have it in a week at which point I will send it to you if you are interested and don't already have information. -Nicholas Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1993 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) From: burnett@research.CS.ORST.EDU (Margaret Burnett) Subject: Re: Visual Programming > Is "Prograph" a good visual programming language? Are there any other > products and typical applications? Prograph is undoubtedly the most successful commercial VPL. It is one of my favorite visual programming languages, and I do indeed consider it to be good. There are only 1 or 2 others that claim any success in the commercial world. Most of the others in the commercial world are unsuccessful because they are not very good. Most of the activity in VPLs is so far in the research community. In that arena, there are several VPLs that have been successful in terms of making excellent contributions toward the success of visual programming in general. Many of those are well-represented in the books that you are now reading. Margaret Subject: Visual Programming The best places to learn about Visual Programming are: 1. A very good pair of tutorials, edited by Ephraim P. Glinert, from IEEE press, 1990: Visual Programming Environments: Paradigms and Systems (order #1973) Visual Programming Environments: Applications and Issues (order #1974) 2. The annual IEEE Workshop on Visual Languages (1986, 1988-1992. 1987 was held, but self-published (not by IEEE). 1993 will be held this August in Bergen, Norway, and the name has been changed in 1993 to IEEE Symposium on Visual Languages). 3. The Journal of Visual Languages and Computing (quarterly, Academic Press). 4. comp.lang.visual Regards, Margaret