Newsgroups: comp.editors,comp.sys.transputer From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Folding editors In-Reply-To: <3639BEFD.2CC25E3C@esgem.com> Message-Id: References: <36374B57.168B9492@pact.srf.ac.uk> <71aj0c$oc$1@fangorn.moria.de> <6r1znq7264.fsf@belhaven.spider.com> <3639BEFD.2CC25E3C@esgem.com> Return-Receipt-To: pobart@access.digex.net Organization: Express Access Private Account Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:15:56 -0500 Xref: ukc comp.editors:31996 comp.sys.transputer:8889 On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Stephen Maudsley wrote: > Iain A F Fleming wrote: > > The entity calling itself Michael Haardt wrote: > > > [snippage] > > I do, however, hold to the view that folding is evil, and leads to the > > creation of poorly structured, monolithic, programs. > > Why do you consider that to be the case? > > Certainly I've seen code where scoping of variables has been so convoluted > that it was unmaintainable. There are those of us who do very little programming and use editors primarily for text. If the text is structured in some ways, a folding editor can save gross amounts of work. Since I do most of my editing under DOS, there are times I fire up my copy of KEDIT (an XEDIT more-or-less clone) largely for its folding capabilities (as well as the fact that it can use extended memory on my poor old box). I did recently on a half meg file, and if I had had to do what I wanted "by hand" with a non-folding editor, I might have given up in despair. I learned the value of folding back in the days when I beat to death the VM/CMS editor XEDIT. (The only other DOS folding editor I have is the Ravitz Editor, but I have never learned it well.) If an editor someting like JOE, say, had folding (and a decent DOS port so I could use it under both DOS and unix), I would use it heavily. Folding can be a godsend for some kinds of non-programming text manipulation. -- Paul .......................................................... Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart